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Watched Battlestar Galactica: Razor

We finally got around to watching Battlestar Galactica: Razor last night. David and I were not that impressed. We've seen better writing from this team.

I particularly disliked the inconsistency of Bill Adama overriding Lee on the rescue, and then saying, "Oh, son, you make the next call. It's your team," less than five minutes later.

The backstory regarding Gina and Helena worked fine for me: it made sense that the torture visited on Gina was essentially Cain displacing beating herself up for being vulnerable. Additionally, given that revenge was driving her at the time, betrayal of any sort, from personal relationships to mutiny, was justification for harsh retribution.

The massacre on the civilian ships didn't seem as plausible to me from a management perspective. If Cain was truly the brutally pragmatic sort she was made out to be, then I believe she would have viewed every citizen as a resource. Keep in mind that they hadn't discovered Galactica at the time, and thought they were the last of the human race. In order to keep going as long as possible, you need people, and there were members of the next generation already present. While there might come a point where it stretched supplies a bit, there's no reason they couldn't have gone looking for resources the same way Galactica did.

David and I both feel that the hybrid was misleading Kendra Shaw about Kara, but we cannot find a logical reason to justify why we feel that way. Why would the hybrid do so? What motivation would it have? It says:

Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves, the pain of that revelation, bringing true clarity. And amidst confusion, you will find her... Enemies brought together by the apostle, enemies now joined as one. The way forward, once impenetrable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, though still in the shadow yet clawing for the light, hungry for redemption, that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. I can see them all, the seven, now six self-described machines who believe themselves without sin. But in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching, the agony of the one splintering into many. And then they will join in the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning.

One could interpret the fifth as being Cain because of having to go through great suffering to achieve redemption if she is indeed sorry for her past sins -- for her, being a Cylon could be a literal rebirth. I wonder if Kara is the angel, given the whole glowy aura she had upon her return. It's hard to say at this point.

It was okay, in my opinion, but merely okay. Despite that, I'm looking forward to the show starting back up, even with the delay from the writer's strike.


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Feb. 16th, 2008 12:42 am (UTC)
Well, I liked it better than you did, then. I particularly liked the new POV character (I forget her name, already, dammit) introduced (and shown the door) in the episode.

I suspect, based on what I've seen of the season 4 sneak peaks, that Baltar is the apostle. I'll lay money that Kara is not the fifth Cylon; it's too obvious. As for Cain, it's too boring - Cain's role is to portray what we seek to avoid - she's the other choice, the route that justifies the worst of the Cylon atrocities. As a purely practical matter, if Cain were a Cylon she could have finished the fleet before it knew what hit it.

Have you considered that Roslin may be the last Cylon? If the entire journey has been scripted by Cylon mystics, what better person to lead the humans where they need to go?
Feb. 16th, 2008 05:15 am (UTC)
Kendra Shaw was the one Lee Adama appointed as XO who stayed behind with the nuke.

Moore recently stated that Baltar is a a bit of a red herring - something about him not really being on a savior track - so I won't prognosticate about his role.

Kara's not the fifth. I have read on several sites that it definitely isn't Roslin or Adama, so I ruled them out long ago. In fact, the fifth isn't at this table, per Moore. Besides, Roslin was on the ship when the music played, so there would have to be a very good reason why she didn't respond.

Did you have the sense that the hybrid was misdirecting Kendra, or did you think it was telling the truth? To us, it just felt like he'd manipulated the whole thing from the start, but to what end?

As a whole, the parts I liked most were the flashbacks to young Adama. I agree with you that it was a very solid casting choice.

Feb. 16th, 2008 01:19 pm (UTC)
Thanks for posting that; that was a fun little bag of hints. I can't wait for the new season to start.

I reject the notion that being on Galactica in the season 3 finale and not hearing the music precludes the possibility of being the fifth. Boomer activated two seasons earlier while standing right in front of Tigh, and I'm pretty sure Tyrol was on the ship at that time, too.

If Moore isn't just jerking us around, the identity of the last Cylon is bound to be pretty disappointing. Having the reveal of four major characters was really effective ... the last one will now either be someone we haven't met before, or a minor character (Dualla or Gaeta? Yawn.) There are only two intriguing possibilities that come to mind - Zarek,who has always been a pain in the ass, or Cally, because it would make her child not just a hybrid, but the first purely Cylon baby.

As for the (old) hybrid manipulating Shaw, I don't think manipulation has to necessarily be untrue (plus, from a narrative standpoint, it's counter-productive). The series has been gearing up for a long time to the notion that the Cylons, or at least a faction within them, have manipulated events from the very beginning for spiritual reasons that aren't yet clear. I suspect the end he's manipulating things towards is the season 4 finale :)
Feb. 16th, 2008 04:34 pm (UTC)
I'm looking forward to it as well.

"I reject the notion" must be your phrase of the day, as you used it in both your response to this topic and the other. :) Re-read my post, though -- I never said that not hearing the music precluded someone being the fifth, only that there would have to be a very good reason why they didn't (or why we weren't shown that). Anyway, as stated in the article, no one sitting at that table is the fifth.

I don't think Boomer's activation is necessarily relevant: she's one of the Seven, not one of the Five. We've been told that the Five are fundamentally different. Additionally, Boomer's activation didn't have an association with music, did it? Not that that's the only way a Cylon can be activated; indeed, that might not be the way the fifth is activated. However, the fundamental difference between the models still remains.

Odds are on the last Cylon being female from something I read a while back analyzing the images of the final five. Dualla would be way too boring, and she was on board the ship during the music. Zarek's a little more interesting, but he's a guy, and someone pointed out that his personality traits are already represented among the Seven. Gaeta's a guy and was on board the ship.

* They've said that the fifth has been known since S1.
* If the bodies under the wraps are accurate indicators, the fifth is female.
* They just did a big movie on Cain.
* She was off Galactica at the time the music played.
* She's a prominent female lore character that we can't easily rule out for one reason or another.
* She factors into Moore's love of religious symbolism - Cain the betrayer, with the blood of her sibling on her hands. What better candidate for the redemption the hybrid spoke of than the analogue for original sin?

If it isn't her, then Dualla's almost the only other female of any prominence, but that'd be so trite that I'd hope they'd shy away from it. It's really unlikely to be Cally, given what we've been told about Cylons not being able to reproduce with one another.

Actually, a thought just occurred to me -- Ellen Tigh. However, that seems unlikely from a narrative perspective -- it would cheapen her death and Saul's actions. Although ... it would certainly explain why she and Saul never had kids, and might tie into Saul being a Cylon (they've got a lot of 'splainin' to do with that one). It's also a little weird plot-wise from the actions she took on New Caprica.

* She wasn't on the ship
* She's female
* We've certainly known about her since S1
* She's been a character of influence in the past - we viewers have spent more time with her than Cain.

Hmmm. I really wouldn't like Moore cheapening Saul killing his wife by bringing her back, but I could kinda live with it. She'd be more meaningful to me than Cain would be, As I do not have any data that definitively rules her out, and she certainly also fits the statement about needing redemption. The movie could be a big old misdirection. After consideration, I think I must revise my theory to include either Ellen or Cain.

I agree with you about the hybrid in that I don't think what it said has to be untrue, either ... as they say in the Wheel of Time books about the Aes Sedai, "the truth they say is not always the truth you think you hear." It's just that if he has all this knowledge of how events are going to be played out, with the whole "all happened before" angle, I can't decide if he's attempting to change them or if his role of making them doubt Kara was part of the predestined plan. Why warn them, when she's part of the action to bring about destiny?

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