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Following Cheney's bad example

And, like the current vice president, it appears that Teresa Heinz Kerry lacks the couth and diplomatic sense to apologize, given this CNN story.

As I have always said, there are problematic elements in every political party. It's just a shame that the woman who may be our next First Lady appears to be one of them.

Seems that both of them need to read All I Really Needed to Know, I Learned in Kindergarten, particularly the bit about saying you're sorry.

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mumpish
Jul. 28th, 2004 01:27 am (UTC)
Bzzzzzt. Non-issue.
Personally, I liked Cheney better after the F-bomb. What struck me was the false sanctimony from everyone else, and the laughable pretense that politicians don't talk that way. They don't often talk that way in public, true, but they certainly do in private, as anyone who's read several dozen political biographies surely knows. I thought it humanized him. As for THK, I don't really know enough about her to form an opinion, although "shove it" is certainly nothing to write home about.
pointedview
Jul. 28th, 2004 03:22 am (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised by this. In fact, in writing the comparison between the two, I actually thought to myself, "Well, at least Mumpish will appreciate it." Given the concern you expressed in this post because you seemed to believe that I was not giving each side equal time, I rather thought you'd be pleased with my position that both parties were rude, and both should say they're sorry. In your very own words:

"When you're making blanket assertions, remember to consider whether the same behavior benefits positions you happen to agree with."

I don't think anyone can argue that this isn't the same behavior; they can only argue the degree, and whether they feel it was justified in either or both instances.

Humanized him? We're all human. It's also human to engage in disputes, love, eating, sleeping, and the like. It would hardly make either of them less human to have the grace to acknowledge that they had each failed to control their anger. This almost gets us into a discussion of base motivations and noble motivations, and which traits demonstrate human consciousness, but I won't veer that far from the subject. However, I am curious as to why you consider civility from those in what is necessarily a job involving diplomacy to be a non-issue? Neither was at home or in private space when they spoke.

I figured you'd like the equitable treatment of gaffes on both sides of the political spectrum. Apparently, I was wrong about that, and I apologize for my presumption/expectations on it. (*winks playfully* See, that didn't hurt a bit. ;) )




mumpish
Jul. 28th, 2004 11:17 am (UTC)
I'll happily stipulate that your positions are consistent here. They're just both wrong :P

pointedview
Jul. 28th, 2004 12:53 pm (UTC)
Well, I hope you'll tell me why you feel that way, at some point when you have time. I am listening to what you're saying, you know -- you just haven't convinced me, yet. Move to extend the speaker's time, as it were. ;)
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